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    Default has anyone here ever tried water fasting?

    the benefits of water fasting are pretty well-documented. i've read that many people with lupus go into remission or are "cured" after fasting and adopting a healthier diet.

    i've attempted a 10-day water fast. i made it only to 2 days (what can i say? i'm addicted to food). after the initial headaches and detox effects i must say i felt a lot better. it relieves stress on the organs.

    has anyone else tried it? what was it like?

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    I agree that eating a healthy diet can help us to manage our Lupus. I'm not sure that a healthy diet, alone, can help us to achieve remission.
    Fasting for Lupus sufferers is a big "NO-NO", especially given some of the medications that we have to take in order to overcome our symptoms.
    There are a lot of proponents of fasting, in particular, water fasting. You will find many, many articles on the web, recommending fasting for recovery of arthritis, Lupus, etc. However, if you talk to a rheumatologist, a cardiologist, an endocrinologist, or a neurologist (all specialists that Lupus patients have to deal with), they will all advise against fasting, especially long-term fasting (anything more than 24 hours). What is suggested for us is that we adopt an unprocessed, whole food diet, that we engage in a sensible exercise program, that we acquire restful sleep, and that we try to reduce pollutants in our environment. In so doing, we can provide the necessary conditions to help us to recover and maintain health.
    I would suggest that you be very careful about engaging in any type of fast if you are a Lupus patient. Do not undertake a fast without getting approval, input and suggestions from ALL of your doctors.

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    I've never attempted fasting, and now that I've got lupus, I don't think I'd try it - for all the reasons Saysusie listed.

    I have however, adjusted my diet since being diagnosed. I eat a little fish and shell fish, but no other meats. I try to eat only natural foods, whole grains, organic, with as little processing as possible. I've heard it called a "mediteranian" diet, high in olive oil, fresh vegetables and fruits, some cheese (I love goat cheeses!), nuts and beans for protein, and such. I believe it made a difference for me in lowering pain and increasing energy. Plus I lost some weight!
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    Hello there supertouch,

    Saysusie is correct. My rheumo also told me exactly the same thing as well. Fasting is a big No-No for us. A well balanced diet is really important, but I've not heard of anyone going into remission from a proper balanced diet. I had a rather tense discussion with a man on Youtube one night, who was telling people that his fasting method would cure Lupus. I tried to explain to him that his "advice" could cause someone with Lupus a serious problem. And reminded him that there is no cure for Lupus. He didn't want to listen, but fortunately the powers at be did listen to my request to take his "claim" off the forum. Trust your Dr, and trust websites like this one, and organizations like the Lupus Foundation, you won't get any bad info or advice from these sources.

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    It's good to hear from others the risks involved in fasting. I have a realtive (who shall remain nameless :roll: ) who is a proponent of a lot of fairly extreme measures to cure a lot of ills - including lupus. When my husband first learned of my diagnosis, he talked to this relative and got a lot of unsolicited advice, and fasting was one of the things he talked about. I'm glad I didn't listen to that. I'm sure with all the meds I was on, I would've been in big trouble.

    I've since revised how I eat (unfortunately, not always how MUCH I eat ) and find that most of my grocery shopping is on the perimeter of the store. I cook 'from scratch' soooo much more than I used to, and look for unprocessed stuff.

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    I agree with Saysusie

    Eat healthy food...good diet, proper rest, and moderat exercize and a health team of professionals that you trust, out ways fad cures any day.

    There's no magic cure.
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    I will try to be very calm and not jump up on my little soap box. Let me suffice it to say that SaySusie has quite eloquently put it that Lupus sufferers should not fast. I could get very anatomy and physiology with you to explain what I have spent many years learning, but she put it succintly enough. Many people put surveys and studys "out there" and claim that their research is "well-documented", but there is not one ounce of truth that a disease such as lupus has been found in a well-controlled, properly staged study to heal or bring Lupus into remission. One of the very basics of lupus is that it is (negatively) effected by stress, and fasting is very stressful to the body - as Spock would put it, "That is just not logical." (the idea that fasting helps lupus)
    I so hope that anyone who reads a study that claims to help lupus will come to the board and bring it up, so that others, who care about you, can help check into the claims. If the claims turn out to be founded, it could help lots of us. If not, perhaps we can help someone not to hurt themselves. I honestly think a 10 day "water fast" would be a great detriment to a lupus sufferer (and anyone else, actually, but I promised I would not get on my soapbox...).

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    Hey Jody,

    Don't you just love people who give out unsolicited advice? Being a family member, I suppose you had to be polite to this person. When I encounter people who make claims about treatments and diseases they know nothing about, I go from zero to PO'd really fast. The nice cordial diplomatic Rob goes away, and the angry side comes out. One of my biggest pet peeves is people who speak as though they are an authority on a certain subject, when in fact they know little to nothing about it. When the subject is someones health, and there is a potential for harm, I don't let it slide. Anyway, I'll get down off the soapbox, and give it back to Suzique.

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    Actually, I was really feeling both soapboxes, Rob & Suzique. Didn't you see me in the crowd raising my hand and saying, "Tell it Brother!" "Right on Sister" Oh and that was me shouting, "Amen to THAT!" :lol:

    So, let's just leave the soapbox out for a while so that we all can get on it to put these so-called "Know-it-alls" in their place!

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    Yeah, I hear you Rob! This particular family member has an opinion about everything health-related and it's usually something off-the-wall. Most of us are used to just blowing it off - listen politely, nod and then roll our eyes at one another later! :roll: After all these years, it's not worth arguments any longer. You're right though...if the advice is potentially harmful and being given to someone who might take it at face value, then you've got a problem. Give 'em hell, I say. (Let's see if our little censor elf lets me say that....)

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