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    Hi,

    I'm brand new to the site and to the world of Lupus. I just got diagnosed this week. My grandfather died from Lupus in the '60s and because I knew what to look for and went in telling them what I thought it was, I was lucky enough to get a diagnosis rather quickly. Now I am waiting to find out if I also have Vasculitis (the bloodwork raised some red flags), (not the cutaneous kind, but the kind that attacks your organs, veins and arteries). I have many bluish nodules under the skin that I guess was of major concern- the docs previously said they were lipomas but now aren't so sure. Does anyone out there have these kinds of rhematic nodules too?

    If anyone would like to chat or has any insight into Vasculitis and/or for a newbie to Lupus, I'd really like to hear from you. The info online regarding lupus related vasculitis is pretty much the same article on most sites.

    I was so relieved to find a forum like this and luckily I can still type- my hands are really affected right now and I cannot hold a pencil. My friends and family (especially my poor dad who had dealt with this before) are fairly freaked out and I even have a "good friend" who is avoiding me because I don't think she knows how to deal with this. Any ideas on how to deal with people you love who are turning out to be emotionally immature in thier handling of this news would also be welcome. Thanks much to you all!

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    Hi Laurel13;
    Welcome to our forum and to our family. Here is information regarding lupus and vasculites:
    Vasculitis is an inflammation of the blood vessels. Inflammation is a condition in which tissue is damaged by blood cells entering the tissues. These are mostly white blood cells which circulate and serve as our major defense against infection. Ordinarily, white blood cells destroy bacteria and viruses. However, they can also damage normal tissue if they invade it. Vasculitis can affect very small blood vessels (capillaries), medium-size blood vessels (arterioles or venules), or large blood vessels (arteries and veins).
    Several things can happen to an inflamed blood vessel. If it is a small vessel, it may bread and produce tiny areas of bleeding in the tissue. These areas will appear as small red or purple dots on the skin. If a larger vessel is inflamed, it may swell and produce a nodule which may be felt if the blood vessel is close to the skin surface. The inside of the vessel tube may become narrowed so that blood flow is reduced, or the inside may become totally closed (usually by a blood clot which forms at the site of inflammation). If blood flow is reduced or stopped, the tissues which receive blood from that vessel begin to die. For example, a person with vasculitis of a medium-sized artery in the hand may develop a cold finger which hurts whenever it is used; occasionally this can progress to gangrene.
    Vasculitis can be caused by
    1. infection of the blood vessel walls
    or
    2. an immune or "allergic" reaction in the vessel walls.

    The first cause is rare. When it occurs, bacteria, viruses or fungi infect the blood vessel. White blood cells move in to destroy the infectious agents and damage the blood vessel in the process. This is a serious condition and requires prompt antibiotic treatment.
    The second cause of vasculitis, an immune reaction, is more common. Substances which cause allergic relations are called "antigens." They cause the body to make proteins called "antibodies" which bind to the antigen for the purpose of getting rid of it. Antigen and antibody bound together are called "immune complexes." Two primary ways in which immune complexes destroy antigens are:
    1. by attracting white blood cells to digest the antigen,
    and
    2. by activating other body substances to help destroy the antigens.

    Unfortunately, some immune complexes do not serve their purpose of destroying antigens. Instead, they remain too long in the body and circulate in the blood and deposit in tissues. They commonly accumulate in blood vessel walls, where they cause inflammation.
    It is likely that some white blood cells which kill infectious agents ("cytotoxic" cells) can also accidentally damage blood vessels and cause vasculitis.
    In the vasculitis caused by lupus, the antigens causing the immune complexes are often not known. In some cases, the complexes contain DNA and anti-DNA antigens, or Ro (also called SS-A) and anti-Ro antigens. A recently discovered antibody, ANCA (anti-neutrophil cytoplasm antibody), can cause vasculitis in some individuals.
    Diseases associated with vasculitis
    Vasculitis can occur in many different illnesses. Some of the illnesses that can cause vasculitis are
    * Infections
    * Autoimmune Diseases
    o Lupus
    o Rheumatoid Arthritis
    o Polymyalgia Rheumatica
    o Scleroderma
    o Wegener's Granulomatosis
    o Temporal Arteritis
    o Cryoglobulinemia
    * Erythema Nodosum
    * Tumors
    o Leukemia
    o Lymphoma
    o Others

    Vasculitis can also occur by itself without any obvious associated infection or other illness.

    Vasculitis can cause many different symptoms, depending upon what tissues are involved and the severity of the tissue damage. Some patients are not ill and notice occasional spots on their skin. Others are very ill with systemic symptoms and major organ damage. A list of symptoms based on the tissues in which vasculitis occurs include:
    Systemic symptoms
    Fever, generally feeling bad ("malaise"), muscle and joint pain, poor appetite, weight loss, and fatigue. This set of complaints can occur in many illnesses and is not specific to vasculitis.
    Skin
    Red or purple dots ("petechiae"), usually most numerous on the legs. When the spots are larger, about the size of the end of a finger, they are called "purpura." Some look like large bruises. These are the most common vasculitis skin lesions, but hives, itchy lumpy rash, and painful or tender lumps can occur. Areas of dead skin can appear as ulcers (especially around the ankles), small black spots at the ends of the fingers or around the fingernails and toes ("nail fold infarcts"), or gangrene of fingers or toes.
    Joints
    Aching in joints and a frank arthritis with pain, swelling and heat in joins. Deformities resulting from this arthritis are rare.
    Brain
    Vasculitis in the brain can cause many problems, from mild to sever. They include headaches, behavioral disturbances, confusion, seizures, and strokes.
    Peripheral Nerves
    Peripheral nerve symptoms may include numbness and tingling (usually in an arm or a leg, or in areas which would be covered by gloves or socks), loss of sensation or loss of strength (especially in the feet or hands).
    Intestines
    Inadequate blood flow in the intestines can cause crampy abdominal pain and bloating. If areas in the wall of the intestine develop gangrene, blood will appear in the stool. If the intestinal wall develops a hole (called a "perforation"), surgery may be required.
    Heart
    Vasculitis in the coronary arteries is unusual in lupus. If it occurs, it can cause a feeling of heaviness in the chest during exertion ("angina"), which is relieved by rest. Heart attacks rarely occur as a result of vasculitis.
    Lungs
    Vasculitis in this tissue can cause pneumonia-like attacks with chest x-ray changes that look like pneumonia, and symptoms of fever and cough. Occasionally, inflammation can lead to scarring of lung tissue with chronic shortness of breath.
    Kidneys
    Vasculitis is not common in kidneys of people with lupus, even those who have lupus nephritis. It may not cause any symptoms, although most patients with renal vasculitis have high blood pressure.
    Eyes
    Vasculitis involving the small blood vessels of the retina can occur in lupus. The retina is a tissue at the back of the eye which contains cells that have to be activated to form a visual image. Sometimes, vasculitis of the eyes causes no symptoms. Usually, however, there is visual blurring which comes on suddenly and stays, or a person may even lose a portion of their vision. In other non-lupus types of vasculitis, such as temporal arteritis, there is sudden loss of part or all of the vision in one eye, usually accompanied by sever headache.
    Remember, vasculitis can be very mild and of little importance, or very severe and life-threatening -- or any degree in between. The best doctors to deal with lupus vasculitis are rheumatologists. Then, perhaps, general internists, dermatologists, hematologists, nephrologists, gastroenterologists, infectious disease experts, pulmonologists, cardiologists, geriatricians, neurologists, and ophthalmologists.

    The diagnosis of vasculitis is based on a person's medical history, current symptoms, a complete physical examination, and the results of specialized laboratory tests.
    Blood abnormalities which often occur when vasculitis is present include an elevated sedimentation rate, anemia, a high white blood count and a high platelet count. Blood tests can also be used to identify immune complexes or antibodies that cause vasculitis in the circulation and measure whether complement levels are abnormal. These tests take several days to complete. The physician may also order a urine analysis.
    If there are any symptoms that suggest heart involvement, tests that may be ordered include: IKG, ECHO cardiogram and hear scans. For lung symptoms, the physician may order a chest x-ray, obtain blood from an artery to measure the oxygen content, and schedule a pulmonary function test. A pulmonary function test uses a specialized machine to measure how well the lungs handle air and oxygen as you breathe into it. If there are abdominal symptoms, the physician may order ultrasound or CAT scans of the organs in the abdomen, or other special x-rays to see the intestines. For brain symptoms, CAT scans and magnetic resonance images are frequently useful.
    Sometimes, inflammation in medium and large-size arteries or veins can be seen by injecting dye into them and viewing the outlines of the blood vessels on x-ray. This procedure is called an "angiography." It can be done in any area of the body.
    The diagnosis is most firmly made by seeing vasculitis in involved tissue. This is done by taking a biopsy of the involved tissue and examining that tissue under a microscope. Your physician may suggest this procedure.
    Finally, it may be important for your physician to consult with other medical specialists about your case. For example, if your physician is a rheumatologist and you have visual complaints which could be indicative of vasculitis, you may be referred to an ophthalmologist. It is very important that one physician be in charge of your case, coordinating your care and helping you with decisions.
    The choice of treatment for vasculitis depends on the severity of the vasculitis, your general health, and your past reactions (positive and negative) to medications. Most physicians recommend cortisone-type medications, such as Prednisone, Prednisolone, or methylprednisolone (Medrol) as the initial treatment for vasculitis.
    Some people with sever vasculitis or vasculitis that does not respond will to cortisone-type drugs will need to be treated with cytotoxic drugs. These medications kill the cells that cause inflammation in the blood vessels. The two most frequently used are azathioprine(Imuran) and cyclophosphamide (Cytoxan). They are usually used in combination with Prednisone and are often effective in treating vasculitis.
    Experimental procedures that have been helpful in treating some cases of vasculitis include: plasmapheresis, intravenous gammaglobulin, and cyclosporin, a medication used to prevent organ rejection in transplant patients. Experimental therapies change frequently. Your physician can provide you with current information.
    There are various outcomes for people suffering from vasculitis. For many patients, vasculitis, especially if confined to the skin, may be annoying but never life-threatening. For those individuals, life can be normal -- or close to it. On the other hand, a small number of people have sever vasculitis involving major organ systems. In these cases, damage can occur so rapidly that treatment does not have time to work or the condition may be resistant to treatment. An attack of vasculitis can be fatal or permanently disabling for individuals so affected.
    For the vast majority of people with vasculitis, treatment is very effective. The vasculitis may disappear only to reoccur later and require treatment again; or it may be suppressed but never really go away, so that some ongoing treatment is always required, especially when it is in conjunction with other illnesses, such as lupus.
    I hope that this has been helpful :lol:
    Best Of Luck To You
    Saysusie

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    Hi Saysusie,

    Thanks so much for all of the information and for the welcome. Good news! It turns out they were wrong about the vasculitis- the nodules I have are actually a rare form of cutaneous lupus called Lupus Profundus Panniculitis. I'd love to know if anyone else on here has this odd, lumpy disorder. It's not pleasant, but much better than the alternative.

    I've got pluerisy right now, and was also bitten in the face by a dog this weekend (4 stitches! - of all times, it had to be now this happened!), so I'm not online as much lately, but will be back often and soon. Sorry it took me a while to respond.

    Thanks again for all of the info. It's nice to know there are others out there who understand. I really hope to make some friends here!

    Be well!

    Laurel

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