Ok thanks! I thought it got up ! What a shame! We are really so lucky here in OZ we grumble about waiting lists but if emergency we do get great help generally! I have a friend here from U S and she had a pre existing condition heart but got medical insurance and had to pay more premiums. She ended up having heart op and then a second emergency one. She is only here on a visa but if she became an OZ citizen she could get free health care if she gets sicker. She just got a three year position so now she can apply for OZ citizenship and free health. For example my gp dr who I see about every two weeks bulk bills me. Which means he claims the government payment and doesn't charge me the difference up to what he can charge. Nice fellow.