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karenboss
05-14-2010, 01:27 PM
This is coming up to my second season. Last year it took me forever to connect that it was the sun making me feel so bad. I don't get a rash or skin problems (except very little) but the sun makes me disoriented, joint pain and neuropathy.

Anyway, I'm sure it's the sun now. So I've been avoiding it but today I brought my SPF 45 to work slathered my sellf up, doned a wide brimmed hat and went for a short walk at lunch. Not too bad really, but not perfect either.

Does sunscreen loose it's effectivity? This bottle is a couple of years old. Do you find one brand over another that works best for you?

magistramarla
05-14-2010, 03:24 PM
Hi Karen,
I HATE sunscreen. I hate the way it feels, and I can't stand it on my face, because it irritates my eyes so much. I recently bought some Aveeno sunscreen made for the face, since we'll be leaving for Santorini in a month. It still irritated my eyes. My hubby tried it, since he was taking an antibiotic that the doc told him he shouldn't be getting too much sun while taking. He came in from riding his bike home one day, complaining that he cried all the way home because of the sunscreen in his eyes and had to quickly grab a shower and then use my Systane eye drops.
I'm watching The Doctors on TV right now, and they are doing a show on summer health hazards. They mentioned that Bare Essentials now makes a brush-on powder form of SPF 30 sunscreen. I'm going to look into that product. They also mentioned Sun Guard by Rit, which I've seen mentioned here before. You can wash your clothes in it, and it "washes in" SPF protection. I'm also going to look for that product before the trip. There is also a company called Solumbra that makes some pretty cool-looking sun protective clothing, but the prices are a bit high. I love the company name. In Latin, sol=sun umbra = shade.
BTW, sunscreen does lose its potency. There should be a use by date printed on the bottle. I think that two years old might be too old.
Hope this helps.
Hugs,
Marla

BonusMom
05-14-2010, 08:08 PM
I've been that little Coppertone Girl (pigtails and all) most of my life, but find that I've developed a nasty habit of burning like never before, so I'm on the hunt for a good product also.

frekkuls
05-15-2010, 04:10 PM
Hey There!
I am a fair skinned ginger person...so I'm very familiar with sunscreen!! I've tried them all!!
With Lupus now, I take no chances!! I use Aveeno body lotion with sunscreen in it....
and then top off with Neutrogena Ultra Sheer Dry Touch SPF 100+ w/helioplex.......
Then I cover every inch with clothing, big sunglasses, brimmed hat, and my umbrella!! You can always spot a Lupie a mile away, LOL

Nertrogena is the best for my sensitive, pimple prone skin...but I only use it on my face from the cheeks on down...avoiding the entire eye area.
I count on my movie star sunglasses and hat to keep my eyes safe.
I hope this helps!!

brandichi
05-17-2010, 05:37 AM
I'm like Marla - I HATE the feel of sunscreen, especially on my face!! I can't stand the scent of coconut, and I don't like anything greasy on me anywhere. That said, I found out the hard way that I hate lupus flares and boiled skin (literally!) even worse, so when I know I'm going to be out in the summer, I wear sunscreen. I use Banana Boat spf 50 on my arms and legs, but I can't use it on my face. I found a local brand, Meijer, is okay for my face. It's not greasy, it doesn't have a scent, it's spf 45, and it dries fairly quickly so I can put makeup on over it.

I also am very good about wearing long sleeves in the sun along with a hat. I was never a hat person, but I made it a mission to find some semi-cool wide brimmed hats last summer, and did okay. This summer I think I need to go on a search again,because I can only find two of them, but maybe add something to them. Ribbon, sparkles, paint...something to make a big hat more fun.

SandyR
05-17-2010, 07:52 AM
I hate the feel of sunscreen too! It just feels like my poor pores are suffocating with it on. I like most of Aveeno's products but not their sunscreen for the same reason. The dermatologist I go to recommends Blue Lizard sunscreen http://www.crownlaboratories.com/bluelizard/. I am thinking of trying that this year. I also like the Nuetrogena and coppertone face sunscreens - they feel a little less paste like to me.

Nonna
05-19-2010, 04:37 PM
Does anyone know if there is a spray sunscreen with a high SPF? they feel better than the creams or pasty ones.

nonna

:twitcy:

magistramarla
05-19-2010, 09:08 PM
I just ordered the Sun Guard laundry additive yesterday through Amazon. Six packets cost me $25.00, including shipping. I plan to wash everything that we're going to pack in it before our trip.
I also bought a nice 30 SPF sun hat from REI (a sporting goods store here on the west coast). I had seen the same hat for $59 online, but I caught it on sale at REI for $30, plus we got our member's discount. Jeff buys his bicycle needs from them, since he bikes to and from his classes.
I haven't found the Bare Essentials product yet. I'm going to check Macy's tomorrow.
Hugs,
Marla

mountaindreamer
05-25-2010, 12:48 PM
i use Neutragena 100 spf sunscreen....i too can't stand the burning in the eyes, so i just put on my cheeks and lower face, then always wear my hat. The sunscreen is light, and not pasty....i really like it.

I have not tried the washing detergent, but, i do wear long sleeves, and my hats always have spf protection.

magistramarla
05-30-2010, 03:42 PM
I bought the Bare Essentials powder sunscreen at Macy's, and I really like it. I can brush it on over my moisturizer, which is SPF 20, and my make-up, which is SPF 15, so I'm hoping that I will be well-protected. I'll let you know how it works in Greece. If I don't burn there, then we'll know it's good stuff.
Does this mean that I'm volunteering to be a guinea pig?
Hugs,
Marla

SandyR
05-10-2011, 06:56 AM
Bumping Up - Summer's Almost Here!

lizbond36
05-10-2011, 08:58 AM
Hey There!
I am a fair skinned ginger person...so I'm very familiar with sunscreen!! I've tried them all!!
With Lupus now, I take no chances!! I use Aveeno body lotion with sunscreen in it....
and then top off with Neutrogena Ultra Sheer Dry Touch SPF 100+ w/helioplex.......
Then I cover every inch with clothing, big sunglasses, brimmed hat, and my umbrella!! You can always spot a Lupie a mile away, LOL

Nertrogena is the best for my sensitive, pimple prone skin...but I only use it on my face from the cheeks on down...avoiding the entire eye area.
I count on my movie star sunglasses and hat to keep my eyes safe.
I hope this helps!!

This is the one I use, I heard from other lupus person that she use this, and won't clog up ur pores. Yes it is 10.00 but its with it. Doesn't smell and oily Hugs Liz

lizbond36
05-10-2011, 09:01 AM
I also use Hats. Hand hold Fan, water bottle's and a cooling vest that I am going to buy so you will see me coming :-)
Liz

tgal
05-10-2011, 10:45 AM
This is the one I use, I heard from other lupus person that she use this, and won't clog up ur pores. Yes it is 10.00 but its with it. Doesn't smell and oily Hugs Liz

This is the one I use as well, especially on my face. It works really well!

tgal
05-10-2011, 10:47 AM
I also use Hats. Hand hold Fan, water bottle's and a cooling vest that I am going to buy so you will see me coming :-)
Liz

LOL I went to a relay for life this last weekend. I had on my wide brimmed hat and big sunglasses at first. As the sun went down I began to take them off and someone asked me if I was mari. LOL I looked so different when not covered up!

lizbond36
05-10-2011, 11:18 AM
LOL Mari, I look funny and boy do I get looks, when I walk I use my crutches. Just image what that look like, I got fed up with people I turn around and said "Take a picture it last longer LOL.

Hugs
Liz

bunny28
05-12-2011, 09:35 AM
My dermatologist recommended Ombrelle sunscreen many years ago wtih UVA and UVB protectors, I usually wear 45- 60 SPF

This year my GP recommended a "new" brand La Roche-Posay Anthelios XL melt in cream for SPF 60 for sun sensitive skin.

I am using Ombrelle on my face and La roche everywhere else and so far only mild rashes no hives or severe sun sickness.

Also to the OP, yes sunscreen in my experience loses its effectiveness. I try to get rid of mine each season as I have had a more severe reaction in Spring using "old" sunscreen. I don't always get rid of it ($$$$) but I try to reapply more often etc and usually find I have to go buy more sooner than later.

SandyR
05-12-2011, 10:34 AM
Did you know that sunscreen did not become popular until the 1950's with the branding of Coppertone and Bain de Soliel? Perhaps that and the combination of medical/technical advances since that time are the reasons there is so much confusion about which kind of sunscreen is best and what the SPF ratings mean and why a higher SPF might not be a better skin protector than a lower alternative. Another contributing confusion factor is just a general misunderstanding of the terms now used. UVA. UVB. PBB. SPF. UVC. What does it all mean to most people? It's been a long time since I learned about the sun and different kind of light rays in school. I know that at that time my high school science teacher wasn't even teaching about UVC rays when we covered that chapter. I don't even know if they were discovered yet. UVB rays weren't fully understood the way they are now. Sunscreen and sunblock meant the same thing to me at that time and that meaning was very small and inconsequential to my life at that point. This was all way before realizing an AI problem or the link to sunsensativety with the AI issues. That just throws another huge monkey wrench of confusion into this whole topic. So I am posting this to help us clear up some common confusions and misunderstandings. It's important to know that the SPF rating is a US-based system that the FDA uses and that other countries, specifically in Asia, and that our (US) system has different regulations in regards to different sun rays (UVA/UVB) than other countries. Also, the FDA has been working on revising this system the last few years and while improvements are being seen the general population doesn't seem to be aware of the differences in sunscreens now and sunscreens from 50 years ago.

The EPA Explains Sun Facts (http://www.epa.gov/sunwise/doc/sunscreen.pdf)

Sun Dangers Spelled Out in UVA, UVB, SPF (http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/painter/2007-05-06-sun-dangers_N.htm)

SPF Levels/Times and Skin Types Chart - PLEASE NOTE THIS IS FOR THE AVERAGE PERSON WITHOUT SUN SENSATIVITY! (http://www.opotion.com/pages/spfchart.html)

The Facts About High SPFs (http://www.webmd.com/skin-beauty/features/high-spf-sunscreens-are-they-better)

Understanding UPF Ratings - Sun Protective Clothing (http://www.rei.com/expertadvice/articles/sun+protection.html)

A Dermatologist's Explanation of US SPF Ratings (http://www.dermtv.com/understanding-sunscreen-uva-ratings)

The FDA's Sun Protection Web Page (http://www.fda.gov/Radiation-EmittingProducts/RadiationEmittingProductsandProcedures/Tanning/ucm116445.htm#4)