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wrightrs
03-21-2010, 08:32 AM
Today's the day for the Big vote for Health Care. I hope it passes for all my Lupus Friends.

Nonna
03-21-2010, 09:05 AM
But is it worth giving up our freedom of choice??

I'm afraid of what the democrats are doing!


Nonna

rob
03-21-2010, 10:06 AM
Hmmm,

It's hard to know what to think. Both sides in this battle are putting such a spin on the issues that it just makes it all very confusing. I see some really petty, and juvenile words and actions coming from both parties. I just hope that they will pass a reform bill that will benefit everyone, as well as not limit people's freedom to choose. Maybe that's alot to ask for.

I see having access to the finest health care available as one of the most fundamental rights a person can have. In an ideal world, everyone from the homeless to the most priviledged should receive the same high standard of care. But, it's not an ideal world, so the best we can do now is hope our elected representatives put aside ego and rivalry, and do something that will be in the best interests of the most people possible.

Rob

PS-Maybe they will pass a law saying that any Rheumotologist who tells you it's all in your head gets 50 lashes. Hey, I can dream can't I?:laugh:

mountaindreamer
03-21-2010, 10:39 AM
i agree with rob,

all that i have seen is both sides playing politics. Yes, there definitely needs to be health care reform, but i also believe that the existing government programs need to be studied and overhauled. If they clean up their own back yard, then maybe their trash will quite blowing into our back yard.....

all representatives receive life-long "premium" health care plans that are paid by us.....so, now they want to raise our taxes if we happen to have a decent health care plan, but these repts get to keep all of their luxuries.....everyone should contribute to correcting our health care system.....until i see the government looking at their own contribution, then i will stand against their changes on us.

tgal
03-21-2010, 01:06 PM
Hmmm,


PS-Maybe they will pass a law saying that any Rheumotologist who tells you it's all in your head gets 50 lashes. Hey, I can dream can't I?:laugh:

Here here!!!

As for the health care bill I simply don't trust either side anymore. Anyone that passes laws for me but exempt themselves are people not to be trusted. Yes, things need to change but "There is nothing so bad that the government cannot make worse"

debbie-b
03-21-2010, 03:28 PM
Hmmm,

It's hard to know what to think. Both sides in this battle are putting such a spin on the issues that it just makes it all very confusing. I see some really petty, and juvenile words and actions coming from both parties. I just hope that they will pass a reform bill that will benefit everyone, as well as not limit people's freedom to choose. Maybe that's alot to ask for.

I see having access to the finest health care available as one of the most fundamental rights a person can have. In an ideal world, everyone from the homeless to the most priviledged should receive the same high standard of care. But, it's not an ideal world, so the best we can do now is hope our elected representatives put aside ego and rivalry, and do something that will be in the best interests of the most people possible.

Rob

PS-Maybe they will pass a law saying that any Rheumotologist who tells you it's all in your head gets 50 lashes. Hey, I can dream can't I?:laugh:


Well said, Rob.

I will vote FOR the 50 lashes.

Debbie

magistramarla
03-21-2010, 09:30 PM
HURRAH!!! It passed!
Now I hope that some good changes start to happen for people who so need health care.
I think that our president is a very, very intelligent man, and I trust that he is supporting what is right for our country. I just hope that the fat cat lobbyists don't manage to put any more obstacles in the way.
Here's hoping that things will get better now!
Hugs,
Marla

rob
03-22-2010, 04:06 AM
HURRAH!!! It passed!
Now I hope that some good changes start to happen for people who so need health care.
I think that our president is a very, very intelligent man, and I trust that he is supporting what is right for our country. I just hope that the fat cat lobbyists don't manage to put any more obstacles in the way.
Here's hoping that things will get better now!
Hugs,
Marla

Yep, it passed! My lack of confidence in our elected officials is eased some by the knowledge that President Obama is indeed an intelligent, and practical leader who has the best interests of our country as his first priority. Sometimes it seems like he's the only calm rational voice in Washington DC. It will be interesting to see what happens in the upcoming months. I hope the people who need assistance the most can start getting the help they need.

Rob

wrightrs
03-22-2010, 08:36 AM
Now maybe I can get one of those Cadillac plans like congress has. Maybe I can get all my meds soon. Maybe I can get the tests my doctors want me to have now. Maybe I can have a plan that I won't be afraid use or get intimidated when I do use it.

DrinkofWtr
03-22-2010, 10:22 AM
I am just glad the legislators passed some kind of health reform legislation. In the past, all they have ever done is talk, talk, and more talk. In the erstwhile, people keep/kept dying for lack of medical care/insurance. I am with you Magistramaria, "I hope good things start to happen for people who really need health care."

Our legislators not only have their own "cushy" health care plan. They don't participate in Social Security either. They have their own retirement plan, separate and apart from Social Security. What's good enough for the American people is not good enough for them, is it? It makes my blood pressure go up when I think about it. So I can't think about it anymore right now.

wrightrs
03-23-2010, 09:59 AM
I was so Happy to see Obama sign this into law today !!!

rob
03-23-2010, 10:18 AM
I was so Happy to see Obama sign this into law today !!!

Yep, it's a done deal. I hope the reforms can begin to have a positive effect ASAP. There are so many out there who need help.

Saysusie
03-23-2010, 01:25 PM
I, too, am glad that it passed and has been signed into law. My response to those who felt that their freedom of choice was being taken away, or that they would have to give up their current plans, or that the government was going to take over health care, has always been...READ THE BILL IN IT'S ENTIRETY!!

The PRESIDENT has made this bill available, to every single person in the nation, to read since its inception. Each modification to the bill has also been made available (either on his website or from your representative).

We can never make decisions or know the full truth by listening to pundits, snippets on the news, or others who have formed opinions without reading the full document themselves. It is our right to have these documents made available to us and I feel that it is our duty to read them thoroughly before we pass judgment!

Now that it is a law..we have an even greater ability (and responsibility) to read and understand the law and how it will (or will not) affect us!

Just as I say that it is important to educate ourselves about Lupus, I believe that it is important to educate ourselves about any matter that may have a bearing upon us and our lives! Learn, Learn, Learn...Read, Read, Read!! Know the facts for therein lies the truth!

Peace and Blessings
Namaste
Saysusie

magistramarla
03-23-2010, 04:00 PM
Well said, my wise friend!
Marla

mountaindreamer
03-23-2010, 04:04 PM
you are so correct.

the facts are where we can find the truth. i must continue to remind myself of this.

abbasgirl
03-27-2010, 02:44 PM
Where can I read the bill in its entirety?

abbasgirl
03-27-2010, 04:43 PM
Where can I read the bill in its entirety?

Never mind. Found it after quite some digging.

If anyone else wants it...it's a pdf here...http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=111_cong_bills&docid=f:h3200ih.pdf

It's a longggggggggggg read! lol.