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abbasgirl
03-04-2010, 11:39 PM
I've read some things on the net that says no and some say yes and to not share drinks, spoons, forks, or any kissing.

What's the opinion here?

What do you do when you can't get rid of it and you've tried everything...never enjoy kissing ever again? :grumpy:

Eskimo kissing just doesn't cut it!

magistramarla
03-05-2010, 11:19 AM
As an old nursing Mom, I KNOW it is contagious. Baby would have thrush on tongue, I would get an awful rash around the nipple, and then I would almost always get a vaginal yeast infection at the same time! My poor daughter who has had awful yeast infections since she was a teenager dealt with the same thing when she was nursing her son.
The way that we would treat it was to treat all of the guilty parties at once - the baby, me and the hubby (since I would inevitably pass it along to him, too).
Don't give up on kissing - just treat him at the same time!
Marla

abbasgirl
03-05-2010, 02:54 PM
Thanks Marla. It's mind boggling how there are always so many differing opinions about one topic isn't it. I'm thinking it's catching. I don't know if I want to kiss him and treat him although he would think it's a good idea. He's a big smoocher. :cute:

UGH I HATE thrush! How long does it usually take to go away? I've had it nearly a month now and been treating it all this time. I've cut out sugars, take acidophilus, change my toothbrushes and clean them and the tongue cleaner too, using the swish and swirl mouthwash, and have taken four diflucan. I think my system is out of whack big time. I've been sleeping more every day than awake too.

magistramarla
03-05-2010, 07:43 PM
Wow, usually one Diflucan is supposed to do it. If you've taken four, and you've still got it, I would think that you should talk to your doc about it.
Marla

abbasgirl
03-09-2010, 01:34 AM
Saw a new doc today for primary care about this. I really like her. I may just change my pcp. I love my pcp but she's been making a lot of bad mistakes since her divorce and the nurses there are getting more and more horrid. The nurses want me to understand they don't like being a pcp kind of practice to me...they only take people for quick things, not help complicated AI patients continuously...no kidding. That's what I was told from the start and they have been doing their best to run me off since. My pcp told me they're full of it and she can be, but I am beyond tired of dealing with those ladies and I'm getting more worried about my pcp's personal problems spilling over into her profession.

ANYHOO. lol. This new doc told me that it's not thrush but something else is causing my mouth to be white. We also suspect some liver trouble. So she took some blood and I call tomorrow to see what they found. I've had some pain right under the base of my right ribs and she said the liver is there and it feels a little enlarged. So I'm a little spooked. We're not sure it was the mtx's doing. Something weird is going on, which isn't news...it's just scarier than the usual stuff.

BUT I do have more energy lately. YES! My sleep schedule is messed up so I'm still trying to fix that, but I can stay awake much more and do things without feeling wiped out so easily. It was so beautiful out today here...just gorgeous. I spent a great deal of the late afternoon on the porch listening to all the critters and looking at the orchids coming up out of the ground. Daughter, me, and the pup sat on the swing and just drank it all in. YEAH SPRING!!

Nonna
03-09-2010, 02:19 AM
Hey
I am thinking of you and remember......
Knowing what you are dealing with is winning half the battle.

Nonna

abbasgirl
03-09-2010, 02:27 AM
Thanks Nonna dear. I left you a message on your profile page. (((Hugs)))

Larz77
03-09-2010, 04:51 AM
Sorry I didn't see this post sooner. Ironically, I went through a "thrush" think last year and did the Diflucan once and the swish and swallow twice before I finally went to an infectious disease doctor who looked in my mouth and said "that's not thrush". Super. The first doctor scrapped my white tongue and found yeast, hence her diagnosis. Apparently we always have yeast in our mouth, so that's not accurate to base a diagnosis on. Thrush is white cottage cheese llooking on your tongue and would be found along your gum lines and on the roof of your mouth, around the sides of your tongue, etc. So, if that helps ahnyone....

mountaindreamer
03-09-2010, 01:59 PM
hi leslie girl,

so sorry to hear that you are still struggling with this thrush (or whatever it is). i know you are miserable, but it sounds like you enjoyed the beautiful evening yesterday. Good ole georgia spring weather....can always make us feel better.

so glad to hear about the new pcp that you saw....hooray, there is a decent dr in your area. when do you find out the lab results of your liver test? you might want to contact the rheumy's office, cause i am sure that they took liver tests when you were there last time...you might could use as a comparison.

anyway....so sorry about everything, we need to talk soon.

magistramarla
03-09-2010, 10:03 PM
Hi Abbasgirl,
Be sure to let us know about the results of the liver test. I sure hope that the MTX didn't cause it, right when it seems to be helping with everything else.
Hugs,
Marla

abbasgirl
03-10-2010, 01:29 AM
Sorry I didn't see this post sooner. Ironically, I went through a "thrush" think last year and did the Diflucan once and the swish and swallow twice before I finally went to an infectious disease doctor who looked in my mouth and said "that's not thrush". Super. The first doctor scrapped my white tongue and found yeast, hence her diagnosis. Apparently we always have yeast in our mouth, so that's not accurate to base a diagnosis on. Thrush is white cottage cheese llooking on your tongue and would be found along your gum lines and on the roof of your mouth, around the sides of your tongue, etc. So, if that helps ahnyone....

Good to point out to everyone, Larz. So all that time it wasn't thrush! Did you find out what was causing your troubles?

Mine had the cottage cheese look... especially on the very back of the tongue. And I had the plaques on my gums above/below my teeth too and when I removed it, it would either bleed or be red underneath and wow were my gums sore for a while. That's some nasty stuff to go through and the swish and swirl takes a lot of getting used to, or it did for me. Tasted like a very thick and nasty version of orajel. The numbing only lasted for about ten minutes too. At least it took the pain away from brushing and scraping the tongue.

abbasgirl
03-10-2010, 01:59 AM
So the liver is fine...WHEW! WBC is okay too.

Doc thinks maybe the white coating on my tongue is from the swish and swirl mouthwash...or magic mouthwash, treatment for the thrush. She thinks it's drying my mouth out big time and with Sjogren's Syndrome, it was really making the dry situation worse. That's the theory so we'll see if it improves with time. I think she's right. My mouth looks like a war zone. I've never seen or felt it like this ever and it wasn't like that before the thrush and treatment. The liver area has some improvement today. I can raise up and lay down with less pain from the strain so that's a good sign.

Heck if we know what has caused my liver to be slightly enlarged and why that hurts, but it's something my rheumy needs to know about... you read my mind Phyllis. I plan to tell them about it this week. I bet I may get to talk to the doc this time. We need to decide on another treatment too. I've decided not to try the mtx again. Or at least not for quite a while. Hubby and I have talked and talked about it. I want to give my body more time to get over whatever happened recently. It's all coming back... all the pains, rashes, etc that come with hyper immunity... but I'd like to have a nice long sit down with the rheumy and talk about more options before I try anything new again. I wonder if I should ask for a call-in of Plaquenil until we decide on something else...I never felt a difference with it before but I guess it's better than nothing. I don't know. What do ya'll think? This thing with the liver recently scared me and I wonder if the wolf is busy doing something there. Being on nothing for the hyper immunity has me more spooked than usual.

I felt really down about it there for a while because the methotrexate worked really well on the pain, but I'm feeling more encouraged these days. I'm grateful to have a doctor that let me try it and cares about the quality of my life. I haven't hit any bricks walls like I was before...I have a better doctor. She knows all the options, is very well-versed in dealing with Lupus, and is open to hearing my opinions about my treatment. We'll figure this out. For now I'm just so grateful to not be sleeping my life away and able to get smooches from my honey too! lol.

Thanks family! Love ya'll!

magistramarla
03-10-2010, 01:49 PM
Good news, Abbasgirl! I'm glad that your liver is OK.
You're right - have a good long talk with your doc and decide what option is best for you. Remember that Plaq takes a while before it seems to work well. I read someone saying that they didn't realize that it was helping until they tried going off of it. That's why I'm reluctant to stop taking it.
Good luck, and take care.
Hugs, Marla

mountaindreamer
03-12-2010, 10:55 AM
hi leslie,

wonderful news about the liver. i hope you are feeling better with each day.

i certainly think it would not hurt to ask about starting on the Plaquenil. I agree with Marla, i did not realize how well it was working for me until i decreased the dosage....then i could tell the difference. Ask about starting back up on it, and give it some time to see what it does....

i see it is raining like crazy in your area, hope you are staying dry....and smooching your honey.