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iseedeadmonkeys
04-30-2009, 10:32 AM
Please can someone put it in english for me lol

Hiya guys so some of you know i went for an xray for my back, gawd its so painful and heres the results:-

THORACIC SPINE:
Moderate scoliosis convex to the right. Mild to moderate disc degenerative change at D5/6 and milder degenerative change from D6/7 to D9/10. The D6 vertebral body is mildly reduced in height, No evidence of recent collapse.

LUMBAR SPINE:
Mild to moderate scoliosis convex to the left. Allowing for obliquity possible mild reduction in disc height at L5/S1. No gross disc degenerative change demonstrated elsewhere. There is loss of the lumbar lordosis. On a limited assesment, no evident sacro-iliitis.


Ok so what does all that mean then? lol ive not got a clue :skeptical:
hope some one can help me
cheers
ISDM
xxx


Oh btw i asked about my skin biopsy and they chased it up for me to find out where and when i was having one, and im down as urgent but once again i seem to have fell thru the nets lol, i should here from them soon (hopefully), oh and my blood is all gone thin again lol, happy thursday everyone x

Oluwa
04-30-2009, 01:25 PM
Scoliosis is a curvature of the spine...side to side like if looking at your back head on at the thoracic spine, middle back between shoulder blades it is curved like a backwards C....

You have disk degenerative disease (DDD) the triple D's...at the base of your neck D5/6...in the US we called that area cervical spine C5/6. I had my disk removed there and had donor bone inserted and fused with a titanium plate.

I also have DDD...

D6/7 - D9/10...in the US known as the thoracic, upper back T6/7 -T9/10. Appears you have mild DDD there...

L5/S1 is the last disk in your lumbar area, lower back, just above the crack...

I also had two diskectomies there in the lumbar area....

When they say a vertebra has lost height it means the edges are wearing because the disk is drying up, so it is losing it's bounce...causing wear on the edge of the vertebrae.

DDD is I copied and pasted to save my fingers...
Degenerative disc disease (http://www.spineuniverse.com/degenerative-disc-disease/condition-center/) (DDD) is typically associated with aging. As you age, your discs, like other joints in the body, can degenerate (break down) and become problematic: that's a natural part of growing older as your body deals with years of strain, overuse, and maybe even misuse. However, DDD can occur in people as young as 20, so sadly, youth doesn't always protect you from this disc-related condition. In fact, some patients may inherit a prematurely aging spine.
Degenerative disc disease (http://www.spineuniverse.com/degenerative-disc-disease/condition-center/) involves the intervertebral discs. Those are the pillow-like cushions between your vertebrae in your spine. They help your back carry weight and allow complex motions of the spine while maintaining stability. As you age, the discs can lose flexibility, elasticity, and shock absorbing characteristics. They also become thinner as they dehydrate. When all that happens, the discs change from a supple state that allows fluid movement to a stiff and rigid state that restricts your movement and causes pain.
If you have chronic back or neck pain (http://www.spineuniverse.com/neck-pain/condition-center/), you may have degenerative disc disease (http://www.spineuniverse.com/degenerative-disc-disease/condition-center/). It commonly occurs in your low back (lumbar spine) or neck (cervical spine). Developing degenerative disc disease is a gradual process. As you can see in the illustration, there are even many stages and states your discs can go through as part of DDD. They can bulge, herniate, or thin. Because of disc changes, your vertebrae can be affected-you can see this in the illustration, too. For example, bone spurs (http://www.spineuniverse.com/displayarticle.php/article198.html) (osteophytes) can form as your spine tries to adjust to the intervertebral disc changes.

Click on the blue words above and follow the link for more detailed info, ISDM....


To help you back...ISDM you need to build up your skeletal muscles so they can hold up your back...me, I have my stomach tight, sucked in all day and my butt cheeks always pinched to hold up my lower back...buns of steel as my husband calls them. Always pinched, except when I am relaxed on the loo....


Back at ya..Happy Thursday....
Loves...
Oluwa

lucky7
04-30-2009, 02:25 PM
Oh Oluwa! YOu are so GREAT! You are the one to count on at all times!! THANK YOU for all you do!! HERES to OLUWA:beerchug:
So sorry ISDM!!! OUCH! All i can say is "Damn, you have some back problems"!!! I can relate somewhat, i had an MRI because of back pain and come to find out, i have a broken L5 and a missing disc so im grinding bone on bone! OUCH! That explains the discomfort! LOl They want to do surgery but i say HECK NO! i exercise and stretch almost EVERY day and it REALLY HELPS. You'd be surprised at how much the stretching would help you too. Give it a shot! I hope ytou feel better for it! Hey, you should also try acupuncture, It HELPS SOOOOO MUCH! I dont go to a chiropractor anymore,it almost hurt more! Give it a shot!!! GOOD LUCK!

lucky7
04-30-2009, 02:28 PM
Hey Oluwa, thats so true too about your stomach and butt muscles being firm helps the back issues. Too funny, buns of steal, how cute your hubby is:cute: Good for you! They say to work that core and it answers a lot of your pain prayers!

wrightrs
04-30-2009, 02:49 PM
isdms, So sorry about your back and spine problem. I know It's painful. My back and spine hurts, and pops every time I move. I hope things get better for you soon.

I haven't been on twitter much the last few days

iseedeadmonkeys
04-30-2009, 03:03 PM
thankyou soo much for explaining that to me, its helps alot...no it really does!

When they give the form i was wondering what it all meant the physio dint really explain it to me she just read thru it and mumbled at me....lol like i was to understand!

She gave me some excercisies to do one of which is standing against the wall with my stomach pulled in...she explained it like imagine two strings from your shoulders attached to your bottom then pull your shoulders back and pull ure stomach in for 10 secs at a time 3 times a day, then in the morning and at night (in bed) lay flat with my knees pulled in to my chest a coupke of times then sway from side to side.....ok i will give it a shot, the first time i went to see her she gave me all these exercises to do which i think was too much at once cause i was gettin shooting pains up and down my back!.

Right there we are then, according to my mum she said tht my brother, my sister and my dad (which i dint know about!) also have DDD so there we go EXCERCISES her i come :yes:

Thanx again O xxxx

Lucky - Thankyou for your support too i know and knew in myself it was lupus related yet the drs wouldnt say so....sooo annoying when that happens! funnily enough the rhuemy did talk of surgery hmm we will see what he says i guess, sometimes its really hard to do excercises with the lupus making you feel dreadful all the time :hissyfit: but il give it my best shot b4 i make any rash decisions. thanx again xxx

writghtrs - that sounds bloody awful yuk! i think i would just throw up if mine popped out every now and again!! bless you dear....oh and ive noticed you ve not been on there too hope everything ok with you? xxx

take care all and thanx again xxx

lucky7
04-30-2009, 03:37 PM
Please think it through HARD ISDM ,about the surgery, i hear so many horror stories about it making it WORSE. My old chiro didnt even want me to do it!

Angel Oliver
04-30-2009, 03:46 PM
Oh Jane,

Im sending you very gentle back massages to you! Hope Mj n Norma n family are ok as well.

Love
Amanda.xx

lucky7
04-30-2009, 04:16 PM
HEY, GOOD IDEA Angel!!! Gentle BACK RUBS!!! I LIKE IT!!!!:cute:

Angel Oliver
04-30-2009, 04:18 PM
Right Jeanette...you do the back and i'll do her shoulders....Jane you just relax and enjoy:yes:.xxxxxxxxxxxxx

lucky7
04-30-2009, 04:36 PM
I say when we are done with Jane we take turns! LOL WOO HOO! FREE MASSAGES!! :banana:

Oluwa
04-30-2009, 04:48 PM
ISDM....You're welcome...

Remember....Surgery... only as the last resort! Ensure all options have been exhausted. Nothing ever is like God made....

For me, my spine despite having three surgeries I am a cripple mess. I've learned modifying techniques from jumping into my underwear as I no longer can just pull them on....times it is a feat....

I am not the horror story...Am I better after the surgery..a bit, but in a different way. Am I worse in a different way....yep. I couldn't have managed with a ruptured fragmented disk in my cervical spine, but in my lumbar I wish I had waited at least year instead of 6 months...I have permanent sciatic nerve damaged.

They say it is either from scar tissue on the nerve or the surgeon nick the nerve because I woke from surgery in the worst pain imaginable...like pass out pain.

If there is pain while exercising, the PT should modify it, limit the amount of sets and reps or find another form that is appropriate for your pain. Do tell her of the pain....

Hugs and Love....O.

Jeanette..thank you for the compliment. Sorry to know you have back issues too... simply said, it sucks, eh.

Hugs...
Love,
Oluwa

lucky7
04-30-2009, 05:06 PM
AWWWW, Oluwa! Your underwear story! Funny but sad! Im glad some things are better but sorry for the things that are worse.:skeptical:

mountaindreamer
04-30-2009, 09:03 PM
while you two are massaging her back and shoulders, i will rub her feet to help her relax the aching muscles. jane, so very sorry to hear about the back issues....i have a cousin who has several back surgeries and none have helped her...she refuses to even talk about another, even though the dr. tells her that the operations have gotten a lot better. i too, would approach surgery very carefully....it takes a long time to get over back surgery, and i just don't know if it would help.

stretching, and building up abdominal muscles are good ideas...give them a try before letting the dr. cut on you.

don't let them forget about you and your biopsy....

iseedeadmonkeys
05-01-2009, 03:04 AM
hehe thanks i woke up feeling very relaxed after all tht, ive recently noticed that stress and anger doesnt help with the pain either :embarrassed:

No i would think very hard b4 i make any rash discisions on back surgery ive seen friends having them done and still not overally happy about the idea, operations are not going to fix the problem which is at the end of the day the R.A this is why we are having our problems yes the disc ......mumbo jumbo lumbar melarky doesnt help but ive managed this far im only 30 :yes: i will do the excercises ppl so no worries.

thanx again for all your well wishes

ISDM
xxx

debbie-b
05-01-2009, 09:53 AM
Does anybody know, if on an x- ray, a doc can tell the difference, if the arthritis is RA or degen. arthritis? I do have RA, but my doc thinks that my back is messed up because of degen. arthritis. How can he tell the difference?
BTW a doc told me at age 35 that I have degen. Arth. in my back, isn't that a little young?

Debbie

wrightrs
05-01-2009, 05:51 PM
Jane hope your feeling better. I miss talking with everybody too. I waiting on labs to see if they will show why i'm feeling bad. Thanks for acking. hugs