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KathyW1958
11-05-2008, 04:26 AM
Hi all,
Well now Obama will be the president. I am very worried about what is going to happen with the health care system now big time. I am scared for all of us with chronic illnesses and just what the future will hold for us now. God help us if they push for socialized medicine. Anybody have any opinions?

Hugs,
Kathy

Pretti in Pink
11-05-2008, 04:39 AM
I believe we just have to wait and see what happens. It's all in GOD's hands but I don't think it will get worse than it iis now.

KathyW1958
11-05-2008, 04:52 AM
Hi Prettiinpink,
I sure hope that you are right and that it don't get worse then it is right now.

Hugs,
Kathy

mnjodette
11-05-2008, 05:41 AM
We ALL worry about the health care system, Kathy. I would be worrying no matter who was elected. I admit, the idea of truly 'socialized' medicine is unnerving. We've all had the chance to read about the less-than-great results of that from members of this forum who live in countries that operate that way. But, there are a lot of people from the US posting on the forum who have had terrible experiences accessing good, affordable health care. Nobody is going to solve it quickly....or completely. There will always be 'holes' in any system. I think we need to continue to be our own advocates. (I'm not very good at that....just learning....) The Lupus Foundation of America has a lot of good advocacy information, and it would give you an opportunity to read about what's happening. Also gives us all a chance to call congressman or do something positive when there's an opportunity. It's www.lupus.org Don't let yourself get too stressed about it, Kathy....you know what stress can do! :shock:

KathyW1958
11-05-2008, 08:41 AM
Hi Jody,
I am not going to let myself get stressed over it, because you are right that stress is really bad for us big time. I was just upset that McCain didn't win. If Obama does not live up to his promises and all he will be gone after 4 years so I am not going to worry about it.

Hugs,
Kathy

Saysusie
11-05-2008, 09:00 AM
Very sensitive subject for me because it has been proven, over and over again, that Obama's health care plan IS NOT SOCIALIST! That is the tag put on his plan by the opposing party and those who wished to detract from him and his plan. Even reputable members of the opposing party have had to call for a halt to using the tag "Socialist", when connected to Obama and his plans, as it is not true.
I would suggest that, if there is a true concern, that everyone actually read Obama's health care plan (not what others say about it). Read the actual plan itself and then make a decision/opinion about its merits and how it might affect you personally.

Saysusie

Furrydog
11-09-2008, 04:33 AM
I am from the UK where we have socialized medicine and have to admit that there are limitations, such as waiting lists, not being able to choose exactly who you want to see ( although you get a choice of 4).

However I've read the posts on this forum about people whose insurers won't cover certain drugs for lupus or certain surgeries, people who have no insurance and can't see a doctor in the USA. That makes me so glad that we have a national health service.

When I am ill, I never have to think 'can I afford this?' I just go and see the doctor .....

If I'm not happy with the health service and can afford to pay privately, I can do that instead. I'm actually happy with our health system. :D

hatlady
11-09-2008, 07:11 AM
Agree with Saysusie, President-to-be Obama's plan is not socialistic. That's a label that the other party was trying to stick on it. We have to wait and see.

Under McCain's plan WE - all of us with lupus and/or other chronic conditions would have had a WORSE time, as his plan had pre existing clauses in it. So Obama's plan was the stronger.

The health care system in this country needs to change. Too many have no health care, and the overall system isn't working. I'm lucky, I've got a great doc and good insurance. But I'm probably not typical.

I think we need to wait and see. Remember President Bill Clinton's great plan before he came into office? Didn't happen. Hillary got shot down BIG TIMEwhen she tried to create concensus around the change. That could happen again.

Whatever happens will happen. We have a new president and I'm going to be smiling ear to ear on 1/20/09 when he's sworn in! :D

NoodleMom
11-09-2008, 08:34 AM
I will admit that I did not vote. I really have no opinion one waY or another. My house is a house divided in that my adult children each voted for someone different.
Anyway back to my question. Socialist healthcare? Is that like Welfare? State insurance?

K

Furrydog
11-09-2008, 02:29 PM
yeah you know, you pay your taxes and the government uses that to provide healthcare that is free at the point of access.

People don't like that as the healthy young people who never see a doctor end up paying most of their taxes towards it and the unemployed, sick or old people who don't pay taxes or hardly any taxes, use up most of the healthcare budget.

I was under the impression that Canada had the ideal healthcare system. Or at least that's what we are always told in the UK whenever anyone moans about the NHS.

SuperGiv
11-14-2008, 05:15 AM
I am from the UK where we have socialized medicine and have to admit that there are limitations, such as waiting lists, not being able to choose exactly who you want to see ( although you get a choice of 4).

However I've read the posts on this forum about people whose insurers won't cover certain drugs for lupus or certain surgeries, people who have no insurance and can't see a doctor in the USA. That makes me so glad that we have a national health service.

When I am ill, I never have to think 'can I afford this?' I just go and see the doctor .....

If I'm not happy with the health service and can afford to pay privately, I can do that instead. I'm actually happy with our health system. :D

I couldn't agree with you more, reading how people have been unable to afford drugs and going to the doctor makes me appreciate the NHS, i've never had a bad experience, admittedly 6 months between appointment got hard, but now im diagnosed, i've got the tablets i need and the support of a specialist nurse, and i dont have to worry, which with this illness is always a bonus.

KathyW1958
11-14-2008, 05:22 AM
Hi,
I guess I was just confused about NHS. I was under the impression that you don't get to select your own doctor and that if you ended up with a bad doctor that it was just to bad for you. I guess that is what I worried about. I will have to rethink about it.

Hugs,
Kathy

sick n tired
11-18-2008, 01:11 PM
I was worried either way...I did vote, but it was voting for the lesser "evil"

sick n tired
11-18-2008, 01:13 PM
I am not saying that I believe either of them is evil per se, just politicians who speak out of both sides of their mouth...I really hope that Obama does all of those things that he promised, but don't see how.

coltsfan
11-18-2008, 05:36 PM
Exactly sick n tired. They all promise to do so much, but how can they? The gov't isn't set up to run with just one person. They still have to get a majority to go along with them. Regardless of who you voted for, isn't it great to see history in the making?

sick n tired
11-18-2008, 10:20 PM
Sure, coltsfan, but it would have been history in the making either way.