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Trayray
08-28-2006, 08:48 AM
Hi everyone,

I'm new, my name is Tracey. I've had lupus for a couple of years, and i flare maybe once in a while. But i came down with a really bad case of thrush that was accompanied by what an infectious disease specialist told me, lupus related ulcers. i'm on diffucan, and a steroid/lidocaine swish and swallow, which is the only way i'm getting anything down.

anyone else have a problem like this? any suggestions?

I'm so miserable, and weak from not eating - any imput would be appreciated.

:(

MARYCAIN
08-28-2006, 11:28 AM
I go through the mouth ulcers with every flare, and the increased prednisone then brings on the oral thrush - it's a vicious cycle.

The diflucsan will help the thrush but not the mouth ulcers. There is a product called orabase gel you can find in most drugstores which is just for oral ulcers - it helps some. Also plain liquid mylanta, the anracid stuff, apply with a q-tip to the ulcers and let dry. If you can find it in a health food store, slippery elm lozenges are excellent - let them dissolve in your mouth like a cough drop. Also, oddly enough, marshmallows - again, just let them dissolve in your mouth.

You definitely want to avoid using alcohol-based mouthwash as it will just make the problem worse. There are several good non-alcohol products available, Rembrandt, Tom's of Maine, etc.

If you like yogurt, the active cultures in it will help with thrush. Yogurt smoothies might go down a little easier. I try to avoid anything extremely hot or cold or spicy when my mouth is really raw.
Bland soft foods like mashed potatoes, pudding, jello, etc. are also good. If you can tolerate the taste, Ensure or a protein drink will at least keep your nutrition up. They taste a little better when chilled.

If your mouth sores don't heal up soon, your dentist may be able to recommend something. And if you notice that your throat is sore or it's very to swallow, let your doc know asap. Thrush can go beyond your mouth into your throat (candida esophagitis) and this needs to be treated right away.

Hope things start to improve soon.

Teresa
08-30-2006, 08:32 PM
Welcome.
I get the ulcers but have never had thrush though the Doctor always asks. My ulcers usually last 3-7 days and are usually not painful but they have been. Wish I had advice. Anyway hope you enjoy this site, I love it.

atedj
08-30-2006, 10:02 PM
Sorry to hear about your thrush. I know this isn't exactly the same, but my daughter got thrush really badly as a baby. Someone told me about a dietary supplement that I started giving her daily that keeps the yeast under control. She hasn't had a single problem in her mouth or diaper region since! It's called Threelac by New Life Vitamins. Basically it's a little package of powder full of three different lactobacillus - a good kind of live bacteria that keeps all the bad bacteria away. My mom gets yeast infections EVERY TIME she takes an antibiotic and I tend to get them every now and then, and these help us prevent them, as well. So it's worth a try, I think! Let me know if you want any contact info. I really think it could help!

Moxie
08-31-2006, 05:54 AM
Last Thanksgiving was very tense ... you know, the extended family thing. Anyhow, Dec 1st, I suddenly had a mouth abscess that resulted in eight visits to four dentists, four different antibiotics, oral surgery --- then --- after three month of putzing around --- an extraction of a perfectly good molar (to get at the root of the infection and scrape it out.) I did lose 10 lbs., which was a bonus.

My rheumy said the entire episode was probably stress related. The holidays are rolling around again. Yeesh, I can't afford to lose any more teeth. Thank goodness that one was in the back.

I've noticed, of late, I have spontaneous "pizza burns" (not caused by pizza) on the roof of my mouth that take days to go away. Is this what you guys are referencing as "mouth ulcers?" Or, are you speaking of something like my original abscess?

kbergin16
11-02-2006, 11:15 AM
I suffer from chronic mouth ulcers. Plus i have an immune disease that prevents my body from fighting fungus, so thrush is a constant for me. I take VFend, after Diflucan stopped working for me after being on it for 5 years. I'd suggest buying Ulcer Ease, which is a swish to numb it. It only works for a little while for me now, but it helps a little. Also those little q-tips with the Anbesol inside help. Be careful of candida down the throat- I've been hospitalized many times with it. Just keep an eye on it. i also eat baby food when I have mouth sores--I look like a teen mother buying it in the store, but it is usually pretty good and tasty. Especially Dutch Apple haha. Anyway good luck--I definitely feel your pain. Stay away from OJ, apple juice, anything like that--it'll only aggravate it. I also try to burn them out with Baking Soda which hurts like you wouldn't believe but gets rid of them quicker.
GOOD LUCK!!! :P

kkelly
11-08-2006, 07:02 PM
This might be really outdated but Bentonite Clay really helps me with thrush. Its a natural "yeast buster" product. It tastes terrible but I find it works and you can tell how much yeast is in your mouth by what gets left behind. I sometimes just gargle it around instead of swallowing like you are supposed to. But give it a try - maybe check to make sure it won't interfere with the ulcer meds.
Karen

kbergin16
11-08-2006, 08:09 PM
Oh yeah, Karen. That stuff works. I forgot about it, but it definitely works. Def give it a try!